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Discussion: Legal and Ethical Considerations for Group and Family Therapy
Considering the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA), the idea of discussing confidential information with a patient in front of an audience is probably quite foreign to you. However, in group and family therapy, this is precisely what the psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner does. In your role, learning how to provide this type of therapy within the limits of confidentiality is essential. For this Discussion, consider how limited confidentiality and other legal and ethical considerations might impact therapeutic approaches for clients in group and family therapy.
Learning Objectives
Students will:
Compare legal and ethical considerations for group and family therapy to legal and ethical considerations for individual therapy
Analyze the impact of legal and ethical considerations on therapeutic approaches for clients in group and family therapy
Recommend strategies to address legal and ethical considerations for group and family therapy
To prepare:
Review this weeks Learning Resources and consider the insights they provide on group and family therapy.
View the media, Legal and Ethical Issues for Mental Health Professions, Volume I, and reflect on legal and ethical considerations for group and family therapy and individual therapy.
Note: For this Discussion, you are required to complete your initial post before you will be able to view and respond to your colleagues postings. Begin by clicking on the Post to Discussion Question link and then select Create Thread to complete your initial post. Remember, once you click submit, you cannot delete or edit your own posts, and you cannot post anonymously. Please check your post carefully before clicking Submit!
By Day 3
Post an explanation of how legal and ethical considerations for group and family therapy differ from those for individual therapy. Then, explain how these differences might impact your therapeutic approaches for clients in group and family therapy. Support your rationale with evidence-based literature.
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Program Transcript
NARRATOR: Aaron and Robyn are seeing a counselor, as they are concerned
about the alcohol drinking behavior of their adolescent daughter, Michelle. As
you watch this segment, observe the techniques used by the counselor.
COUNSELOR: I’m wondering, Aaron, what it would feel like if in our work
together that we could work towards having you move towards being more
connected with your family and expressing love in a little bit different way than
you’re used to? Because one of the things that I heard loud and clear is that
when you come home on the weekends– And I don’t know how accurate this is. I
didn’t check this out with you. But when you come home on the weekends, you
go out and play golf, because it’s probably a time where you get to wind down.
There’s probably still very little time that you spend with the family.
AARON: I’m willing to try anything. Whatever keeps my daughter from going
down the road she’s on now. I’ve heard some things today that are really new to
me. And I’m just trying to make sense of it now. And I’m just trying to make it
settle. But I’m OK with trying things.
COUNSELOR: My hunch is that when we begin to do counseling work together
like this, that sometimes people have this sense about counseling, that it’s this
tranquil, wonderful, feel-good type of situation. But it’s really a disruptive thing
that occurs. When you’re coming here and you’re sitting here as a family and
you’re saying, we have a problem, in some ways I communicate to you. I’m here
to help you disrupt your family right now. And that can be a very unsettling thing.
I was just thinking, Michelle, if I were you, one of the things I might feel like is
like, oh wait a second. I’m not ready to have this situation. Go away. Like I’m not
ready to have my mom and my relationship disrupted in any way.
MICHELLE: No. And at this point, I want to be out with my friends. I don’t need a
bunch of new rules. I don’t need all this right now. I’m at the end of high school.
I’m about to leave. I just– No.
COUNSELOR: So when you think about trying new things to make it work in your
family differently, your investment is up in the are with that right now. Like you’re
saying, I’m not interested in making any changes in my life.
MICHELLE: Because I’m hearing just rules.
COUNSELOR: So when you heard me to talk to your dad about him learning
how to express his love differently than he does, you hear that as rules?
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MICHELLE: Well whenever you’re around, yeah that’s what it is. So I don’t know
what else it’s going to be.
COUNSELOR: How would you want him to communicate his love to you?
MICHELLE: Well, if you show up to something that I do. Start there. There’s
always a game that I cheer at you can show up to if you’re interested.
COUNSELOR: Do you play softball or volleyball?
MICHELLE: No. I’m a cheerleader.
COUNSELOR: Cheerleader. OK. So one of the things that would be different for
you, but that might feel good to you, is if your dad came and saw you cheer.
MICHELLE: [INAUDIBLE] like my mom.
COUNSELOR: Yeah. So that would be different. And that might be a start.
MICHELLE: Yeah.
COUNSELOR: Robyn, I’m wondering what it would be like for you to– wondering
if you would be willing to learn some different ways of relating to Aaron that
maybe you had done before when Michelle was younger, but that maybe have
gotten pushed to the side a little bit as you’ve grown up.
ROBYN: This might sound corny, but we used to– My favorite board game is
Yahtzee. And we used to play Yahtzee all the time. And it was just a lot of fun. It
was a way to connect. And maybe that’s something we could start doing again.
AARON: We had fun doing that. I won’t deny that.
COUNSELOR: And one of the things that I would encourage us to do in terms of
follow up work is not so much me making sure that you’re playing Yahtzee every
week. But me checking in with you and just seeing how things are going and just
what changes. Because this is a place where when we meet, we check in. And I
talk with you about how things are going. But the real work that occurs really
occurs on the outside of this office.
You all have participated in sharing some very tender things about your family in
terms of this being your first time in counseling. This is really a hard thing
sometimes to sit in front of a stranger and talk about such personal things. And
you’ve all done great today. But one of things I’d like to encourage you to do is to,
as we go along, not necessarily figure out some strategies and give you a list of
things that you can do. And all of a sudden you’re going to have a happy family
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again. But just to begin to consider relating to each other in a different way.
That’s sometimes hard.
Again, Michelle, from your end, it would be a little bit of a challenge to give up
your mom if your mom and dad started connecting with each other in a more
loving way and the distance shortened between the two, there might be feelings
in you that say, well where am I in this picture? And does my mom loves my dad
more than me, that kind of thing? Whereas right now, you feel like you have a
pretty close relationship with her.
ROBYN: Well can’t it be that he could be part of this and that we don’t really have
to change?
COUNSELOR: Probably. That’s not for me to say. It’s for you all to work out to
each other. I’m not sure that you would want to come in and join your family
drinking. Because I’m hearing that that’s a really big concern for you.
AARON: Yeah. The drinking thing, I’m very uncomfortable with that. I don’t want
to be part of encouraging my daughter to drink.
COUNSELOR: Again, that’s not something that just is a casual thing for you. It
really causes, not only some big concerns, but some anger comes up and
around. I want Robyn and I to be parents to Michelle and show her the right way
and–
AARON: Yes. Yes.
COUNSELOR: And not participate in destructive behavior for her.
AARON: You’re absolutely correct. You hit it dead on.
COUNSELOR: And that’s an area for you that I would think would be tough to
work through. Because you have a very different view of that. You’re feeling like,
I’ve got to balance out this roughness that my husband has. And I want to show
her what the world is really like. I also get a sense that there’s a, if I don’t drink
with her, she might go out and drink with others and really get in trouble.
ROBYN: And I didn’t know that she was doing that. So that’s definitely something
we need to revisit and talk about. Because that’s not safe, if she’s out riding in
cars or driving while drinking.
COUNSELOR: You had this arrangement. You thought, well if I drink with her,
that’ll keep her from drinking with her friends. But That’s not how it’s turned out.
ROBYN: But we’ll talk about that.
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COUNSELOR: Well I appreciate you coming in, as I said. I’m wondering if you
have any questions for me about today. Maybe even if you could just talk about
what you’re taking away from our meeting today. Robyn you can start. What are
you taking away today?
ROBYN: Well I was able to hear Aaron a little bit differently. Instead of him just
coming down and laying down the law of the land, I hear a little bit more that
maybe he thinks he’s showing us love that way. He thinks he’s showing me love
this way. And he thinks he’s showing Michelle love this way. And maybe that’s
something else that I’ll take away too, is that I have feelings and Michelle has
feelings. But they’re not necessarily our combined feelings.
COUNSELOR: Yeah. Thank you.
ROBYN: Thank you.
COUNSELOR: Michelle what are you taking away? Maybe a discovery that you
had or something that you’re taking away today.
MICHELLE: Well, I guess it’d be something like that. You do care. And it’s not
that you’re just trying to care just by giving us money. So that’s nice to know,
because I didn’t know that.
COUNSELOR: It’d be nice to hear it every once in a while.
MICHELLE: Yeah. That would be nice. Or maybe not to hear it, but to do
something else. Get to know me before I have to leave. So that would be nice.
COUNSELOR: That would be a really good thing to talk about next time we do
meet too, what that’s like for you. And maybe some longings that you have to get
closer to your dad before you do leave. Thank you. Aaron, what are you taking
away?
AARON: I’m taking away, a, a lot of just stuff I didn’t know. And I’m still trying to
let that settle. As hard as it was for me, I’ve heard some real concerns from both
my wife and my daughter that I’m concerned, I should have been hearing for
quite awhile now. And I’m leaving here with all that, but also a little
disappointment about myself.
COUNSELOR: Yeah. And I appreciate that this is for you today, it’s been a real
eye opener in terms of some things that you didn’t know was going on. One of
the things that is really important that I typically tell my families in these types of
situations is, it’s really important for you, as we work together, to cut each other
some slack. This is hard stuff, when you make changes in your lives. And these
changes affect each other in ways that we really can’t anticipate.
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And so what may seem like resistance or something that feels like adversarial or
harsh, may be somebody’s attempt to change something that they’re doing. And
it’s really important to not rush to judgment and get condemning of one another,
because this is hard stuff. All right. Well I look forward to meeting with you next
week. And again, nice to meet you.
MICHELLE: Thank you.
AARON: Thanks Doc. Thanks.
NARRATOR: Shawn and Weston are seeing a counselor as they are dealing
with feelings of growing apart in their relationship. As you watch this segment,
observe the techniques used by the counselor.
COUNSELOR: I want to make sure that I’m clear with this commitment. So part
of what you said was that you’re willing to not talk about your job so much. Now
with what Weston committed to, we have a pretty easy way of measuring
whether or not this happened. Either it does or doesn’t. There’s a very concrete
thing. How will we know that the things that you committed to today, Shawn,
would be delivered on?
SHAWN: Well for the date night, that takes some work to restructure my
schedule. Because I just made partner at the law firm. So I would definitely, even
though I’m partner, we still working 12 and 15 hour days. So that would definitely
for me to say, hey, I’m leaving at five on this day because this day is important.
That would definitely show that I’m committed to that.
And the other thing is that I am willing to write down what it is I want to talk about
and try and ex out the things that aren’t relevant. And I don’t mind showing that to
you, to show that I do hear what he’s saying and I am willing to do that, to make
our conversation more focused and more about us, and less about our job and
the things we do at work.
COUNSELOR: So I heard a very concrete action of leaving at five on date night
so that we have this evening free. And the list also. And those sound like some
pretty measurable action steps. So as you identify these action steps for yourself,
what do you notice?
SHAWN: I’m hopeful, very helpful. It’s definitely something that I can do. So it’s
not something that’s so hard that I don’t think I can do it. But it will be difficult. I do
realize and understand it will be difficult. And it will be challenging from that
perspective. So I’m a little nervous about the follow through in actually doing it.
COUNSELOR: New actions are pretty frightening for any of us. And, again, I
spoke of vulnerability a moment ago with Weston. And I’ll again speak of it here,
because vulnerability is an important, actually very central part of being in
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relationships. We want to learn how to be vulnerable with the person we love the
most and with whom we’ve chosen to spend our lives. And so that’s a really
valuable thing to work toward. And with it being new, it also feels pretty risky to
move toward that.
And so I’ll check in then finally with you Weston. And from what Shawn said and
has offered of leaving the office at five for date night and writing down his list of
things that happen during the workday and really focusing on how to ex out those
things are very, well, work oriented. What’s it like for you? What do you think?
SHAWN: I’m excited about the date night. I really am. We need more of that. And
I’m excited about that. And even as I’m listening, I may be being a little bit too
harsh on not wanting to not hear about work, or however that comes out. But my
goal of that is I really want to hear about you.
So I’m not saying you can’t talk about work. But make it about you versus, which
lawyer did what thing and what case they did. I want to hear about you. I know
it’s difficult. And maybe it’s not the clearest thing at this point. But That’s what I’m
looking for, versus just talking.
COUNSELOR: I find myself equally as excited about date night. It just sounds
wonderful.
SHAWN: Want to come along?
COUNSELOR: No, I really don’t. I really want you to go have your date. That’s
really critical here. So we’re going to go ahead and wrap up. And is it agreed
then? Does next week at the same time work for both of you?
WESTON: I got to check my schedule first. I don’t know if I can make next week.
SHAWN: Yeah. Me too. Just making partner, I don’t know. We’ll just have to
check our schedules.
COUNSELOR: OK. So what I’m understanding is that we’ve just spent 45
minutes talking about the difficulty of scheduling together time. And that you’re
now sitting here telling me that you’re not sure that you could make it to next
week’s session. But we’re going to go ahead and check our schedules. Am I the
only person noticing something that’s been a problem happening right in this
moment?
SHAWN: No. That’s the problem. That’s the problem. You’re right. That is the
issue.
WESTON: You’re right. We get so wrapped up we forget where our priorities
really lie.
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SHAWN: Yeah. So we will be here next week.
COUNSELOR: OK.
SHAWN: Well, I’ll be here next week.
WESTON: I will be here.
COUNSELOR: OK. I’ll be here.
SHAWN: Same time. Same time. We’ll be here next week.
COUNSELOR: And I’m really glad to hear that. And the things I want to check in
with next week are with our homework. I want to know how the egg timer worked
out. And most importantly, I really want to know how the date works out. And so I
look forward to next week and seeing you folks again.
SHAWN: Thank you.
WESTON: Thanks.
COUNSELOR: Thank you.
NARRATOR: Billie is coping with the loss of a significant relationship. For six
months, she has been working with a counselor, which is now concluding today.
As you watch this segment, observe the techniques used by the counselor.
JASON: As I think about these last few minutes that we have left together, I can’t
help but notice the change that I experience in you today from that. I know I’ve
said that a couple of times in our time together today probably. But–
BILLIE: Well, what do you see differently?
JASON: Well, there’s a lot of difference. Right? Now you were experiencing
some turmoil in the beginning. And so pretty much most of what I saw from you
was fear, fear of the future, and fear of being alone, and distrust of yourself
somewhere along the way.
But what I’ve noticed over time is that you’ve been more willing to trust your own
emotions. And you’re still willing to be fearful, if it’s warranted. But even when you
say the words anxiety and apprehension now, there’s just such a transformed
way that you can say it even with calmness. You can think about being anxious
even with calmness now.
You’ve learned a lot about your ability to do these things and your ability to
navigate relationships and have emotions, even if they’re scary, and have your
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own emotions, not inclusive as someone else necessarily. Not being worried
about someone else’s responses to those emotions in some way. And that level
of trust that you’ve learned of yourself is something that I am experiencing is
different from you now. There’s just calmness that maybe wasn’t there that first
day.
BILLIE: I’m glad you said that. Because you specifically my experience and my
emotions. And that’s so true, because I had to give myself permission to
experience my emotions. I didn’t give myself permission to do it before because I
didn’t trust them.
And I felt that his were more important, what his needs are more important and
his emotions are important. So I didn’t give myself permission to even have
feelings independent of him. And so now I give myself a lot more permission.
You don’t have a right to feel this way.
JASON: Well what was it that you said that you were afraid of happening if you
had emotions around him?
BILLIE: That he would leave. That he would be upset and wouldn’t be with me
anymore if I expressed how I felt, if I had any opinion that differed from his. So I
just–
JASON: So now he’s not here.
BILLIE: Right.
JASON: So what?
BILLIE: What can I express?
JASON: He’s not here now.
BILLIE: That’s right.
JASON: You’re OK?
BILLIE: That’s right. That’s right.
JASON: So the first day you came in, there was turmoil. And some thoughts for
me about wanting to move quickly. And the next day you came in, things were a
little bit calmer. About three months in we had, a blip on the radar. You saw him
again.
BILLIE: Right.
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JASON: And then about five months in, you said, how will I know when I’m done?
And three times ago you said, I’m ready to be done. And today you are.
BILLIE: All right.
JASON: Well so go with the knowledge that I’m here. And if my life takes me
somewhere else and I’m not here, you’ll be OK. You have an opportunity to see
other counselors if you need to. You can call me at that number.
I’m going to keep your records, of course, just as we discussed. And if you need
them released, I can do that. Just contact me and I will do that for sure. And on
that note, I hope that you know that this has been powerful for me as well.
BILLIE: For me as well,
JASON: OK. So take care.
BILLIE: Thank you. You too. Thank you Jason.
JASON: And thank you Billie.
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Program Transcript
NARRATOR: Aaron in Robyn are seeing a counselor as they are concerned
about the alcohol drinking behavior of their adolescent daughter, Michelle. As
you watch this segment, observe the techniques used by the counselor.
COUNSELOR: So I’m wondering if you would do something for a minute. I’m
wondering if you could share with your dad what he doesn’t get about you. If you
were to think about your dad really being in a place of really not knowing what it
is that you are or who you are. To be able to say to him, this is what you’re not
getting about me. And Dad, I’m wondering if you could just hear what she has to
say. And then I want to talk with you a little bit about that.
AARON: I have to be quiet?
COUNSELOR: Yeah.
AARON: That’s going to be hard.
COUNSELOR: Yeah. I’m sure it will, yeah.
AARON: I’ll give it a shot. I’ll give it a shot.
MICHELLE: Well, I’m not a robot. And I’m not your little Barbie doll toy. And I’m
not your dancing monkey when we go out places. I don’t like performing for
people. And get things that I get– who I am. I am a person. And I want to make
my own decisions. And maybe I don’t know what I want to do. And I think that
should be OK.
COUNSELOR: Anything else? Now I want to stop for a second. It looked to me,
as you were talking to dad, that there were a couple times where you were
looking to mom, almost for some reassurance. I wonder if you noticed that, Mom.
Yeah. And Dad, what were you hearing? What were you hearing Michelle say?
AARON: I’ve got to be honest with you. My internal language was just telling me
to just be quiet and listen to her. So I was hearing my own internal voice at the
same time I was trying to listen to her. But I kept hearing words like “Barbie doll”
and “dancing monkey.” And that’s not what I want my daughter to think that I
want of her.
MICHELLE: You get the message that she feels like you want her to perform.
AARON: Yeah, that’s what I heard. I just That’s not what I want at all.
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COUNSELOR: So one of the things that may be happening in your family is that
you may be making some assumptions about your dad, about what he wants you
to do, that may not be his intention. Do you think that he wants to have you
dance around like a dancing monkey or to perform and be the perfect person?
How does he want you to do that?
MICHELLE: Well, if we’re out somewhere and if I’m not happy, I shouldn’t be
forced to smile. Or if we’re out at a church function or something like that, and if I
don’t really want to mix and mingle and meet whoever you want, I just don’t feel
like I should have to be really happy and go and entertain them or share stories
about something that happened at school or share about something that I did. I
just don’t feel like I should have to be doing that.
AARON: I’m just very proud of you. You’ve had good grades up until recently.
And I’m proud of you. That’s why want you tell folks these things. I’m just so
proud of you and the good grades that you make. But I’m worried about the– the
drinking’s going to– I get that next report card and it’s going to be all B’s and C’s
instead of A’s. And it’s been all A’s ever since. And that’s what I want for you.
ROBYN: You know, she and I have talked about this before. She feels like she’s
your trophy. And I know I feel that way sometimes, too. You can’t have a
relationship with a trophy.
COUNSELOR: So one of the things that you experience, Robyn, that you
experience yourself as a trophy, and not just Michelle– because again, it’s almost
like you were talking for Michelle. She feels like you view her as a trophy. But you
feel that way, too. And so what does feel to be like a trophy?
ROBYN: That I am in his life just to show off, some other acquisition or evidence
of success that he has. And that he doesn’t really care about who I am as a
person, or care about our family. You know, he’s gone all during the week and
when he comes home, you know what he does? He does and plays golf all day
Saturday. So there’s this idea of, you have to be perfect. And you have to be this
way. You have to look that way. And you have to do all these things so the rest of
the world can see how successful he is or I am. But there’s no connection.
COUNSELOR: It’s interesting. During the week, you don’t have to be a trophy.
It’s almost like y’all can get together and just do what you need to do. So in some
ways, his working during the week serves you. It helps you to do– to put off the
trophy and to live how you want to live.
MICHELLE: Yeah, we can just relax and chill together.
COUNSELOR: And so my hunch is that if that arrangement were to change, that
would be pretty interesting to see what would happen in this family. Meaning if
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you weren’t on travel so much, if you were home, that would certainly be different
for you and this family.
AARON: Yeah. I wouldn’t have drinking buddies to come home to.
NARRATOR: Well and the other thing, too, Aaron is that I get the sense that
you’ve depended upon this partner that you have– who is your equal, who is your
wife– to keep the homefront a certain way. And so when you were talking earlier
about them being buddies, you don’t like the coziness. And what you’re saying is
you don’t like the fact that Robyn has abandoned her parenting role to be a
friend.
AARON: Yeah. When I hear “buddies,” I’m just worried about where the parent
side of you comes from. That’s my concern. I love that you two get along so well,
but I just have a hard time with mom and daughter drinking. I really struggled with
that.
COUNSELOR: So what’s your what’s your feeling about that?
ROBYN: Sometimes I do feel like we’re at opposite ends of the spectrum. Here’s
this cold, hard, distant dad. And so my job is to make up for it and give her all the
relationship for both of us together.
COUNSELOR: So almost like you have to offset that harshness that dad brings
in.
ROBYN: Right. Because if I were more parental– by his definition– what would
she have? She’d have parents who she felt like didn’t care about her as a
person.
COUNSELOR: So drinking with Michelle is a way that you show that you love
her.
ROBYN: It’s not really drinking. We just– every once in a while we’ll make some
daiquiris together and we just relax. And I guess this last time, we probably put
too much rum in the daiquiris she just got drunk. But it’s not like we’re going out
driving or going to bars. We’re just hanging out together. We’re just connecting
and relaxing before he comes home.
COUNSELOR: Right. And you have this special time together. And it’s just you
two. And it doesn’t involve him. And it doesn’t even involve your friends, too.
MICHELLE: I mean, they’ll come over. They know she’s a cool mom. But not all
the time.
COUNSELOR: So do your friends know that you drink with your mom?
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MICHELLE: Yeah they know how cool she is. And she understands. And we can
talk to her about anything.
COUNSELOR: So being a cool mom is a pretty important thing to you.
ROBYN: Oh, it’s great. I can go out around town, see one of them, they call me
“mom,” and come over and hug me. It’s wonderful to have her friends like me. So
I get to really stay connected with them and know what’s going on.
COUNSELOR: So you’re a couple of years away from going to college. And I’m
wondering what it’s like for you, Robyn, to think about her leaving and–
ROBYN: Oh, I don’t think about it.
COUNSELOR: Because she goes off to college and then you’re home by
yourself with a cold-hearted husband who is home on the weekends.
AARON: Never thought of it that way. It’s hard to hear.
COUNSELOR: And that’s where I’m curious. It looks like that it’s really difficult for
you hear yourself being perceived that way, like “is this all I am? Just this cold-
hearted–”
AARON: In my own head, I provide for my family. And that’s how I show my love.
And it’s just hard to hear the talk about cold and hard and not there and all that
stuff. Just hard to hear.
ROBYN: But you weren’t always that way. There was a time, when Michelle was
really young, we used to go on picnics together and do stuff together. And as she
got older and the years when by, work became more important to him than us.
COUNSELOR: And one of the things that you’re saying, Robyn, is that what’s
happened over the years is that you’ve grown apart. That you and Aaron have
grown apart. Because I hear the family piece. I hear that’s not only has he grown
apart from both of you. But you have felt some distance in your relationship. So I
wonder if in some ways Michelle has replaced that connection that you seek.
Like she’s somebody– I envision when you have these moments together during
the week where you’re together and– yeah it may involve alcohol, but you share
things with each other about each other’s lives. And you feel like you’re close
friends. And I’m hearing that you don’t– it doesn’t seem obvious that you have
that with Aaron.
ROBYN: No. I mean, we still had a good relationship, but she was younger. And
we couldn’t really have conversations. And I did feel really, really lonely. And now
I don’t feel lonely anymore.
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Microskills: Family Counseling Techniques 2
NARRATOR: Shawn and Weston are seeing a counselor as they are dealing
with feelings of “growing apart” in their relationship. As you watch this segment,
observe the techniques used by the counselor.
COUNSELOR 2: We’ve got just a few minutes left. And so I think that one of the
important things that we do next is to take what we’ve spoken about today and
really translate that into action steps. So what I’d like– and I’ll start with you,
Weston. I’d like you to summarize the things that you heard Shawn say to you.
And the way that I want you to do that is to say, “What I heard you say was–”
and again, provide a summary of that. And then close that with, “And in response
to that, I will–” Blank Whatever you’re going to do in response to that.
WESTON: OK. What you just said there kind of clicked for me. You’re a man of
action versus words. And I tend to be of more words than action. And it’s like two
ships that need a better job talking to each other. Because we’re both powerful
personalities. I’d like to commit or propose let’s come up with a date night.
Whether we just go out for a coffee date, dinner date, dancing date, let’s pick a
night where it’s just the two of
